Dave Chappelle’s Netflix Trans Shocker

Comedian Dave Chappelle had a history of offending some trans activists. His latest Netflix special, Closer, focusing on that subject, sparked a firestorm. Netflix was assailed and picketed, some employees joining in, demanding the show’s cancellation.

My wife and I decided to watch it, to see what the fuss was about.

And I was shocked.

Not by anything Chappelle said. Instead, what shocked me was that something so mild provoked so much umbrage. Chappelle actually seemed quite empathic toward trans people. Venting envy at what he saw as their success, compared to Blacks, in combating discrimination. One long riff concerned a trans comic he befriended and mentored. Though her act had bombed, Chappelle honored her as a great human being. The story’s gut-punch coda was her suicide. But also, Chappelle did skewer trans activist extremism — a subset of “woke” censorious intolerance.

It’s understandable that the trans community, as longtime social outcasts, would be coming from a sense of beleaguerment. But now that’s turned 180 degrees, with any deviation from their rigid catechism deemed a cancelworthy offense.

Wokeism weaponizes linguistic hair-splitting to delegitimize its targets. I’ve written about a man savaged for almost saying “colored people.” He quickly corrected it to “people of color.” But that didn’t forestall denunciation by, among others — get this — the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

As a lover of language, I believe words do matter. And have meaning. But there are two sides to that coin. Some trans activists, even while fixating on how words are used, in other ways reject the concept that words have meaning. Witness J.K. Rowling’s condemnation as transphobic for holding there’s a difference between trans women and what we’re now supposed to call “cis-gender” women. If allowed to say “women” at all. Yet these words simply denote physiological differences. Which trans activists want to deny; while their own promotion of “cis-gender” terminology is itself differentiating. Otherwise why not just call them all “women?” Yet still it’s somehow deemed a crime to acknowledge the differentness.

This is the kind of thing Chappelle was deconstructing. He pointedly observed that every person alive was born through the birth canal of a woman. “Woman” is a useful category word applicable there. A transgender woman, even if considered female for most purposes, nevertheless differs from cis-gender women in certain respects. “Transgender” too is a useful category word. That’s what language is for. Where is the offensiveness?

Scientist Richard Dawkins was also pilloried for the same notional offense as Rowling. The American Humanist Association revoked his long-ago “Humanist of the Year” award. And when I posted an essay defending people changing gender, but also criticizing the attack on Dawkins, and trans extremism more generally, some ferocious responses illustrated exactly what I was talking about. For example, bashing my calling gender dysphoria biological, a brain-body mismatch. (Bizarre, because if they’re right, then trans haters might have a point in considering it a psychological perversion.)

Dave Chappelle got similar bashing. What a pity; the activists doing this seem blind to how harmful it actually is to their cause, generating far more antagonism than sympathy. It’s an old truism that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. James Carville ascribed recent Democratic election setbacks to excesses of “stupid wokeness.” Though why didn’t voters punish the Republican counterpart? Apologists for a coup attempt, the deranged “stolen election” lie, covidiocy, etc. Wokeism versus Trumpism — we’re whipsawed between the two countervailing pathologies.

24 Responses to “Dave Chappelle’s Netflix Trans Shocker”

  1. Don Bronkema Says:

    1. Male & female are not identical.
    2. Censorship is never ok.
    3. Minding Aristotle, insultees must protest.
    4. Virtue is most persuasive when demo’d.

  2. Lee Says:

    Labels can be useful and they can be poison. It all depends upon why the label is being used. One shouldn’t segregate, say, men and women in the workforce, unless the goal is something like curing disparities between them or making sure that they are all supported. Likewise for segregating White from People of Color or cis-gender from trans-gender in pretty much any setting.

    Yes, if you are doctor and the treatment depends upon whether the patient is cis-gender or trans-gender then of course you should do what’s best for the patient. But if you aren’t the doctor or don’t have some other valid reason for making the distinction, and the distinction that you make is regarding a marginalized group of people then chances are too high that the distinction that you make will be causing harm. Unless Chappelle / Rowling / Dawkins is doing something like teaching medical students about treatments, they are in treacherous territory. What is their goal in highlighting these differences? It is to be helpful? I don’t see evidence of that.

    Poisonous labeling of trans-gender people quite literally leads to death in terms of significantly increased levels of murder and suicide. Avoiding this poison is not a manifestation of overzealous wokeness, it is a matter of life and death.

  3. Don Bronkema Says:

    Sadly, true…

  4. rationaloptimist Says:

    Re Lee’s comment, one obvious realm where the difference makes a difference is athletic competition, where many people, with some justification, deem it unfair for trans women to compete against cis-women. But the real point is how trans activists demonize anyone who takes notice of the difference. Trying to repeal reality is not a route to greater acceptance.

  5. Don Bronkema Says:

    Duzzent matter to us sport-haters, but wood seprit contests for trans be feasible? Go, asportheit!

  6. Lee Says:

    > one obvious realm where the difference makes a difference is athletic competition.

    Is that what Chappelle / Rowling / Dawkins was talking about? I see no evidence of that.

    If you are rescinding your entire article and want to change the topic to this very minor aspect, of trans people in athletic competitions, I can follow you there. Is that’s what is going on here, or did you want to defend any aspect of your original article before we make that move?

  7. Don Bronkema Says:

    Lee: yes, mean athletic performance is bound to differ at the record-setting margins. Non sodor amicus meus: soon we’ll CRISPRize germ cells & zygotes to give evribadi a fair shot at halcyon life.

  8. Anonymous Says:

    A middle path; tolerance, acceptance, compassion.

  9. Don Bronkema Says:

    Anon: H. semper unsapiens is a co-op species, as Aristotle & Darwin agree, but when its axiology is threatened, it lashes out w/grievous butchery, per Sumeria to present day. Still, contrary to JP Sartre, there is an exit. We can exploit Doudna’s CRISPR to regineer the amygdala for a seamless, planetary connubium. Absent one of 14 terrestrial & cosmic calamities, our ascendants will provolve into new species & genera at Colonia Martialis & in realms beyond–or plunge to extinction. Vide: MIT Tek Review.

  10. David Lettau Says:

    The wokery madness emanating from the Jacobin left will be used by the fascist right to win the 2022 midterms and the White House in 2024. I also believe it undermines the moral foundation of the civil rights movement.We need honesty in civic discourse,not a war on truth and a nation afraid to speak its mind. Ironic is it not,that “wokery”, is helping to lead to the sleep of reason. And we all know where that leads.

  11. Don Bronkema Says:

    Waking mankind to gender ignorance is splendid, so long as it doesn’t eventuate in censorship, punition, career jeopardy, retro- Trumpism etc. New movements Jacobinize when majorities plug their ears. Applying gentle but relentless pressure is an irrefrangible right intrinsic to sentients.

  12. David Lettau Says:

    Agreement here. You have stated what the legitimate goals of the gender- awareness movement should ideally be better than I could

  13. Don Bronkema Says:

    No, aye defer to your eloquence–keep on!

  14. butimbeautiful Says:

    I do get that some people would like to be the other sex. Unfortunately it’s not really possible, any more than you can be a cat at will. The best you can do is pretend, hard. This is, sadly, obvious to anyone with eyes. But I don’t have anything against pretending, and I don’t support finger pointing and rude remarks.

  15. Don Bronkema Says:

    Time, tolerance & CRISPR = justice & wisdom. Misology will be repudiated as infeasible. All will be well–or not. Cosmos keeps its counsel.

  16. Tucker Lieberman Says:

    Frank,

    Through the web, I stumbled onto your blog. Someone linked to you, and I recognized your name. I see you’ve posted several essays containing your thoughts about transgender people.

    I’m knowledgeable about right-wing talking points about trans people. Your essay precisely mirrors them. It’s a narrative that pretends to be “skeptical” or “concerned” but aggressively delegitimizes a specific group of people in a very targeted and ultimately unfounded way — importantly, without consulting anyone from that group. These talking points weren’t a phenomenon before roughly 2015, and indeed your blog posts arrived several years later. You did not come up with this narrative yourself. This is something you read, something that many, many people have echoed ad nauseam, with or without realizing how damaging it is.

    You and I met each other once, briefly, in 2011 at the AHA conference in Boston. There, I bought a copy of your 2009 hardcover, “The Case for Rational Optimism.” I went home and posted what remains, to this day, the only review of your book on Goodreads, with a 5-star endorsement.
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/130580159-the-case-for-rational-optimism-by-frank-s-robinson

    I wonder how you might feel upon learning that I am a transgender man who transitioned over a decade before we met in Boston.

    Then I wonder if you might be able to put yourself in my shoes for a moment. Think about how you would feel if you were living your life, doing regular-people things like going to AHA conferences and supporting other people’s books, and then one day the whole world erupted in a decade-long argument about whether you had a penis, whether you might regret the penis you do or don’t have, whether you should be allowed autonomy over your body, and calling you an “activist” or “extremist” if you yourself chimed in to offer an opinion on your own life, your actual experiences, or the basic rights you feel you already have or need to have (to fill a prescription your doctor gives you, for example).

    Would you have to become aware of what everyone you ever met had ever said about trans people? Yes. Why? Because it would be crucial for you to know who acknowledges and supports you in a very fundamental way and who, on the other side of the aisle, is parroting right-wing talking points. You would need to know whom to remember fondly, who is trustworthy, who is safe, who has a place in your network, and to whom it makes sense for your name to be publicly linked.

    How many times do you imagine I’ve discovered over the past several years that someone I met or knew years ago suddenly has opinions on who is validly transgender and should be allowed to be transgender? How many hours of my life do you think I spend being disappointed, picking myself up, and explaining this kind of stuff? (Hint: My website has a section, “What is transphobia?” Last time I counted the essays, I’d written over 200.)

    I’m not an extremist. I was living my life quietly, writing philosophy on topics unrelated to gender, until the world started to challenge and complain about my gender in front of me, so now I have to spend my time explaining gender on a very basic level just so I can keep my head above water. Not because this is actually what I want to be doing with my Monday night.

    I want you to think about an emotion it’s suddenly very chic to attribute to trans people: regret. In this scenario right now, what exactly is it do you think I regret?

    Tucker Lieberman

  17. Anonymous Says:

    Trans rights & realities will soon have become normative in secularizing societies: west/east, north/south. Planetary issues like climate cry-sis, syntelligence, regreening, quant & probabilistic lifespans are more opportunities than threats. Conditions in 2123 will be markedly better, per Pinker, Musk, Bostrom, Kaku et alia. Ask like Socrates, answer like Cicero, do like us philo-tekkie nonagenarians. The universe is meaningless, but we’ll explore the stars nevertheless as mandroids. Multo graviora tulisti quam Trump. Tell the kids.

  18. Anonymous Says:

    Supra by Don Bronkema

  19. rationaloptimist Says:

    Tucker: first, thanks so much for your review of my book, which in fact I had not seen before. It is a great review, which I highly appreciate.
    Now regarding your blog comment: frankly I am shocked and baffled by it. I have just re-read the post, centered on Dave Chappelle, which you address. I don’t see how it can be read the way you seem to read it. “Right wing” talking points? If you look further on my longtime blog, a recurring theme is just how intellectually rotten America’s right has become. Its war on non-conforming gender people is part of that. I hesitated over what words to use where I just wrote “non-conforming gender” because language here has become such a minefield. That’s a pity and it really disserves the cause, unnecessarily making enemies of people — like me!! — who are really allies. Your comment, sorry to say, in my view epitomizes this. It grossly distorts what I feel is my actual stance on this subject, into virtually the opposite of what it really represents.
    It’s not the only time I’ve experienced this. Another past post on the subject generated an avalanche of hostile comments by trans people who, it seemed to me, had chips on their shoulders and were just trying to find things offensive because they enjoyed the satisfaction of finding it, making them feel good to have enemies to demonize. (Like: excoriating me for writing of gender dysphoria as a biological phenomenon rather than just psychological. Which, bizarrely, actually plays right into the hands of right wing haters keen to portray transgender people as just mental perverts.) Again, this really disserves the cause.

  20. Anonymous Says:

    Internecine gender sub-cohort struggles render some of us vertiginous, but we wish you the best anyway, if merely to aggravate the paleoliths. [Don Bronkema]

  21. Anonymous Says:

    When Chapelle says, and Frank seconds,

    He pointedly observed that every person alive was born through the birth canal of a woman.

    it is seemingly oblivious to the fact that a person can be born through the birth canal of a transgender man. If your goal is to hide this possibility then you are on the right track. If you wish to acknowledge this fact then you will say it differently, perhaps simply dropping the “of a woman” part. If that modification doesn’t satisfy your goals, is it because your goals including being insulting to transgender men? –Lee

  22. Anonymous Says:

    But not all t/genders boast natural uteri & analogues haven’t yet been perfected, unless aye missed an issue of Experimental Bio. Bien sur, infants will one day be
    conceived in beakers & parturitioned thence routinely on luna or ad colonia martialis–if gravity differentials can be rendered nugatory via centrifuges. Pseudo-gravitons will likely remain fictive, unless beneath gravity & quant lurks a Novus Ordo Physica! [Don Bronkema]

  23. rationaloptimist Says:

    A PBS program did feature a transgender man who gave birth. I daresay it’s a one-in-a-million thing (if not rarer). So I will accept the qualifier; but I think my formulation remains, like, 99.999% correct.

  24. Anonymous Says:

    > think my formulation remains, like, 99.999% correct.

    So, what point was Chapelle making when he deliberately chose “99.999% correct” instead of 100% correct? To me it appears that the aim was to disrespect transgender men.

    –Lee

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